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		<title>By: Arek</title>
		<link>http://mashupaustralia.org/mashups/bushfire-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>Arek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again Peter, drop me a line on  info at aus-emaps.com and we can explore it in more details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Peter, drop me a line on  info at aus-emaps.com and we can explore it in more details.</p>
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		<title>By: peter mason</title>
		<link>http://mashupaustralia.org/mashups/bushfire-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator>peter mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About an iPhone version, I&#039;m interested in NSW fire situations. I&#039;d like to do a native app not a web app.

There is, and you reference, a RFS NSW fire incident site, but it gives an RSS feed and no lat/long. I need lat/long to place on an Apple MapKit map.

There is also the Sentinel KML service available, but am thinking I&#039;d need to parse detail, since KML no use to MapKit maps.

I&#039;m not really sure best way to get the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About an iPhone version, I&#8217;m interested in NSW fire situations. I&#8217;d like to do a native app not a web app.</p>
<p>There is, and you reference, a RFS NSW fire incident site, but it gives an RSS feed and no lat/long. I need lat/long to place on an Apple MapKit map.</p>
<p>There is also the Sentinel KML service available, but am thinking I&#8217;d need to parse detail, since KML no use to MapKit maps.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not really sure best way to get the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Arek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I am short by 8 or 9 locations but only about 350 of 1228 are with address level accuracy. I used a combination of Google and Yahoo. Sometimes it took more than one attempt to get a result…

I suspect that missing records and positional accuracy is an issue with point locations presented in all the mashups, including those based on data originally supplied with geographic coordinates. Hence my appeal to deal at least with one dataset for a &quot;common good&quot;… We really need people with local knowledge to verify those points!

The sad thing is that collectively we spent 100&#039;s of hours on geocoding the same datasets but no one has a perfect set! And even worse, there are dozens of versions now…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I am short by 8 or 9 locations but only about 350 of 1228 are with address level accuracy. I used a combination of Google and Yahoo. Sometimes it took more than one attempt to get a result…</p>
<p>I suspect that missing records and positional accuracy is an issue with point locations presented in all the mashups, including those based on data originally supplied with geographic coordinates. Hence my appeal to deal at least with one dataset for a &#8220;common good&#8221;… We really need people with local knowledge to verify those points!</p>
<p>The sad thing is that collectively we spent 100&#8217;s of hours on geocoding the same datasets but no one has a perfect set! And even worse, there are dozens of versions now…</p>
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		<title>By: Harshit Sekhon</title>
		<link>http://mashupaustralia.org/mashups/bushfire-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>Harshit Sekhon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the same note Arek, were you able to geocode all the fire brigade locations for Victoria? I&#039;ve had some trouble with about 40+ where the provided address just doesn&#039;t seem to show up, atleast through Google&#039;s geocoding service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the same note Arek, were you able to geocode all the fire brigade locations for Victoria? I&#8217;ve had some trouble with about 40+ where the provided address just doesn&#8217;t seem to show up, atleast through Google&#8217;s geocoding service.</p>
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		<title>By: Arek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an appeal to all able and willing bodies who can help in cleaning positional accuracy for fire brigades information.

As it is now, all locations have been geocoded automatically, some with better accuracy, some with not as good. And there are a few missing points as well. There is also an opportunity to add other States.

Please use this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aus-emaps.com/simple_geocoder.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;simple geocoder tool&lt;/a&gt; to identify exact location and send coordinates to me with relevant brigade details via aus-emaps.com. I will publish updated information for anyone to use. It would be something that would last beyond this contest. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an appeal to all able and willing bodies who can help in cleaning positional accuracy for fire brigades information.</p>
<p>As it is now, all locations have been geocoded automatically, some with better accuracy, some with not as good. And there are a few missing points as well. There is also an opportunity to add other States.</p>
<p>Please use this <a href="http://www.aus-emaps.com/simple_geocoder.php" rel="nofollow">simple geocoder tool</a> to identify exact location and send coordinates to me with relevant brigade details via aus-emaps.com. I will publish updated information for anyone to use. It would be something that would last beyond this contest. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Arek</title>
		<link>http://mashupaustralia.org/mashups/bushfire-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>Arek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter, you should not have given up on you project! There is always room for more alternatives.

As it stands, Bushfire Incidents map is “too big” for iPhone Safari browser (my code is only 60Kb but on top of this are all the overheads: Google scripts (100kb+), map imagery, data feeds. But it could be adapted using latest version 3 of Google Maps, or better, static maps. Other information would also have to be converted to imagery before serving – otherwise it would be too costly for the user to access the information. I haven&#039;t got the skills to create iPhone app but will be happy to partner with someone who does!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter, you should not have given up on you project! There is always room for more alternatives.</p>
<p>As it stands, Bushfire Incidents map is “too big” for iPhone Safari browser (my code is only 60Kb but on top of this are all the overheads: Google scripts (100kb+), map imagery, data feeds. But it could be adapted using latest version 3 of Google Maps, or better, static maps. Other information would also have to be converted to imagery before serving – otherwise it would be too costly for the user to access the information. I haven&#8217;t got the skills to create iPhone app but will be happy to partner with someone who does!</p>
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		<title>By: Arek</title>
		<link>http://mashupaustralia.org/mashups/bushfire-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>Arek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries Mate, ;-) BOM data will have to suffice for me as well. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries Mate, <img src='http://mashupaustralia.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  BOM data will have to suffice for me as well. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Harshit Sekhon</title>
		<link>http://mashupaustralia.org/mashups/bushfire-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>Harshit Sekhon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arek,

If only I had known you were the chap behind aus-emaps.com I would have reserved my comment.

As for your inquiry about weather data, I&#039;m afraid I&#039;m using BOM data as well and haven&#039;t found any other resource that covers all the regional areas. Furthermore, I&#039;m reluctant to use information from unofficial sources.

Cheers!
Harshit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arek,</p>
<p>If only I had known you were the chap behind aus-emaps.com I would have reserved my comment.</p>
<p>As for your inquiry about weather data, I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m using BOM data as well and haven&#8217;t found any other resource that covers all the regional areas. Furthermore, I&#8217;m reluctant to use information from unofficial sources.</p>
<p>Cheers!<br />
Harshit</p>
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		<title>By: peter mason</title>
		<link>http://mashupaustralia.org/mashups/bushfire-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>peter mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was considering such a project but you&#039;ve already done it, so I&#039;m scared off, but ... I tried the site on the iPhone but it just showed empty map page, ie zoom sliders etc but no terrain. Have you considerd an iPhone app version? In times of bushfires, the more is your info the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was considering such a project but you&#8217;ve already done it, so I&#8217;m scared off, but &#8230; I tried the site on the iPhone but it just showed empty map page, ie zoom sliders etc but no terrain. Have you considerd an iPhone app version? In times of bushfires, the more is your info the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Arek</title>
		<link>http://mashupaustralia.org/mashups/bushfire-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>Arek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Harshit for your kind words.

I knew someone will raise “similarity” issue. Life is so unfair…:-) So, just for the record then:
- Since we are dealing with the same datasets and same mapping platform, similarities are unavoidable.
- I have been serving &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aus-emaps.com/bushfires.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bushfire maps&lt;/a&gt; since late 2006… this page has been operational since early 2008 and served Victorians well during 2009 bushfires (in fact, tens of thousands of visitors from around the world). Just google “bushfire maps” and see what you get. There are links there to screenshots of the application depicting extents of fires on 7 and 8 Feb 2009…
- I have been gradually adding new functionality - wind information and RSS feeds were on my &quot;to do&quot; list for this fire season.
- Geocoded CFA RSS feeds were first used for mapping by &lt;a href=&quot;http://mapvisage.appspot.com/fires/FireMap.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt; in Feb 2009 and &lt;a href=&quot;http://workshop.whereis.com/fire/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sensis&lt;/a&gt; is using it as well.
- Chequered markers for Police and Fire Stations are not unique (eg. I used this design in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aus-emaps.com/postcode_finder.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Postcode Finder&lt;/a&gt; submitted on the first day of this contest).
- I planned to submit this application from day one this contest was announced so, it’s not that I “just happened to follow someone else’s idea” (you can find references to it in my blog post from 3rd October here &lt;a href=&quot;http://all-things-spatial.blogspot.com/2009/10/mushup-australia-contest.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://all-things-spatial.blogspot.com/2009/10/mushup-australia-contest.html&lt;/a&gt;)

But I guess, in the end, it is all immaterial… Victoria: FireReady is a very nice application, and surely you hit the mark with the audience. That’s all that counts! There is nothing more for me to say than just to sincerely congratulate you a great idea and attractive implementation.  And, good luck with the contest, you are with a great chance for a prize!

Cheers

Arek

PS. There is one thing I meant to ask, if you don’t mind. What’s your source of weather information? I am looking for free alternatives to BOM’s WFS feed as a backup option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Harshit for your kind words.</p>
<p>I knew someone will raise “similarity” issue. Life is so unfair…:-) So, just for the record then:<br />
- Since we are dealing with the same datasets and same mapping platform, similarities are unavoidable.<br />
- I have been serving <a href="http://www.aus-emaps.com/bushfires.html" rel="nofollow">bushfire maps</a> since late 2006… this page has been operational since early 2008 and served Victorians well during 2009 bushfires (in fact, tens of thousands of visitors from around the world). Just google “bushfire maps” and see what you get. There are links there to screenshots of the application depicting extents of fires on 7 and 8 Feb 2009…<br />
- I have been gradually adding new functionality &#8211; wind information and RSS feeds were on my &#8220;to do&#8221; list for this fire season.<br />
- Geocoded CFA RSS feeds were first used for mapping by <a href="http://mapvisage.appspot.com/fires/FireMap.html" rel="nofollow">Google</a> in Feb 2009 and <a href="http://workshop.whereis.com/fire/" rel="nofollow">Sensis</a> is using it as well.<br />
- Chequered markers for Police and Fire Stations are not unique (eg. I used this design in <a href="http://www.aus-emaps.com/postcode_finder.php" rel="nofollow">Postcode Finder</a> submitted on the first day of this contest).<br />
- I planned to submit this application from day one this contest was announced so, it’s not that I “just happened to follow someone else’s idea” (you can find references to it in my blog post from 3rd October here <a href="http://all-things-spatial.blogspot.com/2009/10/mushup-australia-contest.html" rel="nofollow">http://all-things-spatial.blogspot.com/2009/10/mushup-australia-contest.html</a>)</p>
<p>But I guess, in the end, it is all immaterial… Victoria: FireReady is a very nice application, and surely you hit the mark with the audience. That’s all that counts! There is nothing more for me to say than just to sincerely congratulate you a great idea and attractive implementation.  And, good luck with the contest, you are with a great chance for a prize!</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Arek</p>
<p>PS. There is one thing I meant to ask, if you don’t mind. What’s your source of weather information? I am looking for free alternatives to BOM’s WFS feed as a backup option.</p>
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