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	<title>Comments on: Promoting Cycling</title>
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	<link>http://mashupaustralia.org/mashups/transport/promoting-cycling/</link>
	<description>An initiative of the Government 2.0 Taskforce</description>
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		<title>By: J Parker</title>
		<link>http://mashupaustralia.org/mashups/transport/promoting-cycling/comment-page-1/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>J Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adam
It&#039;s good to see you were disappointed. I am as well. As stated: &quot;The aim of this exercise is to simply encourage Government to make cycling routes available on line as a Web Map Service&quot;. I was trying to demonstrate potential usage if the data were available. I have looked into this further and have mashed up some of the same stuff into OpenLayers that may demonstrate further possibilities - look at both the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bigyak.net.au/bike/vicbiketrailsol.html?zoom=11&amp;lat=-37.81358&amp;lon=144.96334&amp;layers=B00000TFTTT&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Melbourne Map&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bigyak.net.au/bike/vicbiketrailsol.html?zoom=13&amp;lat=-33.87611&amp;lon=151.18126&amp;layers=B00000TFTTT&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sydney Map&lt;/a&gt;. That&#039;s probably what you&#039;re after? OpenLayers is pretty versatile but is very slow in operation, particularly for WFS serving many features. For serious work Google Earth is miles ahead and allows for &quot;dynamic&quot; mashing. It can also directly use any WMS server that may be set up by a Government department. That&#039;s all I&#039;m trying to achieve here - online cycling maps provided by the Government as a WMS. ie a good baselayer for further mashups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adam<br />
It&#8217;s good to see you were disappointed. I am as well. As stated: &#8220;The aim of this exercise is to simply encourage Government to make cycling routes available on line as a Web Map Service&#8221;. I was trying to demonstrate potential usage if the data were available. I have looked into this further and have mashed up some of the same stuff into OpenLayers that may demonstrate further possibilities &#8211; look at both the <a href="http://www.bigyak.net.au/bike/vicbiketrailsol.html?zoom=11&amp;lat=-37.81358&amp;lon=144.96334&amp;layers=B00000TFTTT" rel="nofollow">Melbourne Map</a> and the <a href="http://www.bigyak.net.au/bike/vicbiketrailsol.html?zoom=13&amp;lat=-33.87611&amp;lon=151.18126&amp;layers=B00000TFTTT" rel="nofollow">Sydney Map</a>. That&#8217;s probably what you&#8217;re after? OpenLayers is pretty versatile but is very slow in operation, particularly for WFS serving many features. For serious work Google Earth is miles ahead and allows for &#8220;dynamic&#8221; mashing. It can also directly use any WMS server that may be set up by a Government department. That&#8217;s all I&#8217;m trying to achieve here &#8211; online cycling maps provided by the Government as a WMS. ie a good baselayer for further mashups.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://mashupaustralia.org/mashups/transport/promoting-cycling/comment-page-1/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site left me really dissapointed.

The first thing I saw when I arrived was a hugely exciting 3d interface to bike routes in my city... which was a non-working screenshot capture.

I was then faced by a wall of text I had to dig through to find what I was supposed to use, then required to download Google earth and load in the KML sets myself, for which small links are embedded in the wall of text.

I hesitate to say it, but this single HTML page of text doesn&#039;t really seem to belong in the competition.

The site means well, but needs MASSIVE amounts of work on approachable&#039;ness and usability. Loading up Google Earth should be a secondary option, not the only option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site left me really dissapointed.</p>
<p>The first thing I saw when I arrived was a hugely exciting 3d interface to bike routes in my city&#8230; which was a non-working screenshot capture.</p>
<p>I was then faced by a wall of text I had to dig through to find what I was supposed to use, then required to download Google earth and load in the KML sets myself, for which small links are embedded in the wall of text.</p>
<p>I hesitate to say it, but this single HTML page of text doesn&#8217;t really seem to belong in the competition.</p>
<p>The site means well, but needs MASSIVE amounts of work on approachable&#8217;ness and usability. Loading up Google Earth should be a secondary option, not the only option.</p>
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